I bought a LCP II but the extended clips don't work in it, so I am still carrying my old LCP in my front pocket. A .410 is barely an excuse for a shotgun, and should never be used when a 12 or 20 gauge is called for. Josh is an avid firearms enthusiast who fired his first gun when he was just 10 years old. If you want something toylike with questionable or useless sights, the author's list will serve you. I like my RM380. Find the LPC a bit small for my hand. In the worst-case scenario where your shots aren't on point, a .380 will have a harder time taking someone down vs. a 9mm. One of the big box sporting good stores ran the Ruger LCP 380 for $199 on black Friday. The trigger pull is hard, very similar to a revolver, but on a pocket gun that is a good thing that won't affect me if I have to use it plus I practice with it all the time. Weather day or night my Sig's sights glow nice and bright. Also no safety to snag and good double action pull such that it could never accidentally discharge. I have put over 1000 rds through it without one failure. Learn the 3 most popular shooting stances & more. The plastic grip sides come loose after shooting it. We watched the ballistics videos on youtube and it seems like a solid combo. Also, I have not had any problems with any ammo. I want to know wTF are you doing that you need to carry a gun? Cheers, The Taurus TCP is the top of the heap for reliability and value ..by far the most relaiable out there and great trigger also. Another even more serious mistake is that you, mentioning the benefits of the good Bersa pistol, about the Walther PPK, you textually say: "It improves it a bit with some modern features, such as an open sliding cover and a decocker / security." Super concealable with 10 rounds of .380 ACP although snappy. I'm more accurate with it than my j frame, and carry two additional rounds. I couldn't get even I magazine to fire without 2 or 3 issues. I think I've seen it test at 5-5.5 lbs. We'll send you the latest guides and training tips geared Why? Because, over the years, Ive watched a very great number of pistol shooters OUTGUN THEMSELVES by trying to shoot a 40 caliber pistol consistently and well. I have always enjoyed the way this pistol feels and shoots. It was inexpensive, and Ive never had a misfire or a jam. - It's shorter, cheaper and has much more capacity than the Glock 42 There are pistols that can be relied upon to save your life in a surprise CQB pistol gunfight, and there are other pistols, like 380's, that do little more than make a handgun carrier feel safe. Have you tried magazine extender that permits 3 finger grip, or does that magazine you mentioned offer that? Yeah, yeah they got caught in some controversy, but I'm sure all weapon manufacturers are subject to lobbying BS. Still mystified by the issues with Hornady as that is my 9mm choice for personal and home defense. A very fine pistol. That is saying something about the bullet design. We'll cover what the round can do, things to consider in choosing a gun, ammo, and our top 5 picks of the best .380 pistols. Mine has misfired multiple times since I bought it. As the article notes: Practice, Practice, Practice! I just purchased a S&W Bodyguard ($50 manufacturer's rebate through June). A lifetime warranty you will probably never use is yet another reason you might be sorry you didn't consider a FireStorm, if you're interested in a nice 380. I noticed the Kimber Micro .380 didn't make the list. It just fits perfectly in my hand. I felt bad about taking his $100. Like the Sig, the 911 is all metal and the fit and finish are excellent. You need to know that your ammo of choice works in your gun of choice. I cant win. The trigger pull is long but it's not a gun for more than 25 feet anyway. So given all this my LCP is in the category called "GOOD". In line with your sock drawer comment, if there is even the remotest possibility that I will have a malfunction, I don't have any use for that pistol. The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. I had no images on Chrome, but Firefox was fine. Any list discussing pocket-carry guns that does not at least mention the best on the market, the Seecamp, is incomplete. Thank you for the info. It takes an attacker 1.5 seconds to reach you from 21 feet. Note: DOES NOT FIT Glock 43, Ruger LC380, and other larger frame 380's. It does what it's supposed to do, with a really good factory trigger, pretty decent little sights, it's withstood the test of time, and it's a pretty sexy little gun (mine is the matte black with brushed nickel highlights).#1 380, hands down Bersa Thunder 380's, oh ya, and at a very affordable price. You can still find some of the more garishly (rainbow?) He then raised his voice and advised her that you don't shoot 9mm in a 40 S&W and sent her off the line to go change out her ammo. Box of 5000 5 boxes of 1,000 all. I have a S&W Bodyguard. Others find this to be true as well. Thanks! I have the kimber mucro 380 that i replaced with the new micro 9 with the laser grip and the extended mag and in a pocket holster when i wear shorts and it shoots great vwry easy to hit your target and it has a great trigger i have iver 30 hand guns but thats my favorite Pocket Gun next to that is my Glock 19 when I have regular clothes and i am a member and have the insurance and you guys are great very informative. Mine has gone through hundreds of rounds from every brand I find, and there's no more than an occasional jam. Buyer beware! Easy to shoot, very reliable and inexpensive (~$285). I've had one for 6 years; love it. I have 2 pistols in .380acp. Check out Editors Picks. I personally carry my Beretta PX4 Compact in .40 S&W concealed during the 96 degree days of summer all the time. I thought this would be a good combo for the lady, but she has had difficulty using it on the range. I have no issues at all deactivating the safety. The LCP II is bigger than the original LCP and is a blocky and unattractive turd. The SW380, chambered in .380 ACP, held six rounds and was fitted with very rudimentary "guttersnipe" sights. I am not sure why Kimber was excluded from the list of .380's. I think they make it still, but in a CA-compliant model only. The Beretta Pico is top dog. I have a micro 9 and an ultra carry ii .45 and both are very reliable and groups are good. Can a .380 pistol save your life? I have and carry the G42 routinely. While I dont personally own one, Ive fired my fair share and can say that they are reliable and accurate. I have also shot the Bodyguard, Glock, Ruger LCP2 and Sig at rental range. Felt and shot like a Swiss watch, as it should. Even with a Streamlight TLR-6 on it, I can easily carry it in my shorts or jacket. Practice, practice practice. It should be telling that the "Judge" (or it's equivalent) has made NO inroads with law enforcement, security, or the military. And I have the Sig Sauer p238 (IMO) the KING of the small 380's. I have the sig p238,Springfield armory 911,glock 42 and ruger lcp, I like my short trigger pulls but my lcp does have a decent enough trigger and recoils not bad! Good Luck and Good Hunting. It was absolutely horrible! I bought the Kimber .380 Raptor after a day of shooting a buddy's. Being S&W & a Ruger fan, I was so disappointed in the Bodygaurd & the LCP. I don't even own one (yetnext on the list). And want more of our favorite guns & gear? The few failures I have had maybe are my fault. Another great gun is the CPX3 .380 pistol made by SCCY on the east coast of Florida. These pocket rockets have the ability to conceal well but also are plagued by limited ammo and doubts of stopping power. PSs-I've owned/own Brownings, Rugers, Sigs, Smiths, Springfieldsadd Bersa to the list! I show up to a call and see someone with a weapon they are getting neutralized immediately no questions asked dont need no tweaking crackheads running amuck with a gun especially in Merica. I, and my brother both have a Kahr CW380. Self defense means close shooting. I decided for retirement to go back to a .380 for concealed carry, as it is easier to conceal in Florida's weather. I owned one of these years ago and it was a dream! Well, at least the one I have. Hornady Critical Defense and Sig V-Crown is what I carry - there is a ton of info and recommendations in our Best 9mm Ammo article! Replacement parts were free from Bersa and I did the labor myself, pretty easy to work on. Rock Island Armory Baby Rock 7. It always feeds, fires and ejects regardless of what ammo I feed through it. It's about 30% heavier as a result, but it shoots awesome. As far as the nature of .380, I have always considered it adequate. I simply bought it because of its price (too low to mention??? The Kimber also has many "factory custom" options such as a lowered ejection port and a flat wound recoil spring to aid in the pistol's reliability factor. "They get the job done, but several shots may need to be fired to get your point across." What this means, is that if you squeeze the trigger and all that happens is a click, pulling it again will allow the cartridges primer to be struck a second time, hopefully firing it this time. I also have a Micro 9 which is a bit larger than the Micro 380. All in all Sig for me is the better choice. Reliability I traded it 2 weeks after buying it and the guy gave me $100 in trade! What decent pistol can you put in your pocket and forget it's there? I prefer the 7 round extended magazine, plus 1 in the chamber. I highly recommend it. Specs vary based on model. It is a little heavier but the recoil is super manageable. I was carrying a Kruger 357 mag short barrel ed I am a big guy I carry a P365 in a pocket holster everyday in my right front pocket. Another BIG vote for the Rem 380. The CZ is not a pocket gun, holds 13+1, runs DAO or cocked & locked 1911 style. This is a great gun with excellent sights for both day and night. Another good one not mentioned in your list: Remington's RM380, which like the Sig is all metal. What is very important to me is having a laser and being able to shoot juiced up .380 rounds. By comparison, the UXP still worked fine in 9mm, but he was able to find dozens of 9mm hollow point rounds that expanded consistently and only cost a fraction of the price. I, too, love the Sigs. The chances of actually having to draw is really small, and the chances you're going up against someone who will shake off being shot are almost nil. Its an updated design of the old Robaugh, I hope I spelled that correctly. Cor-bon dpx works well in both and a good defensive round . A little pricey, but very accurate, no malfunctions, has tritium night sights, and a real pleasure to shoot. So went out and bought a Bersa "Fire Storm"fell in love with the 380 cal. I have some arthritis in my hands and find that the LCP II kind of beats them up. Small, snappy, accurate in rapid fire, good sights, good trigger, and slightly heavier than expected due to full metal frame. It really likes to digest Remington 88 gr HTP and Remington 102 gr Golden Saber. Try adjusting your grip, i.e., grip,the gun a little more tightly, or a bit more loosely. The original LCP is smaller, weighs over an ounce less, still has a decent trigger for a 380 and is straight up sleek and sexy. All are used for pocket carry, as often my clothing choice here in FL makes it impractical to carry one of my 9's as I prefer, which is OWB under a loose-fitting shirt. That's right, of the 4-5 that we have , the Bersa has never ever had a problem and it was under $200 out the door. Well said Chris. 400 rounds later with only one ftf, I couldn't be happier with the decision. Hey Glenn, thanks for writing in! The Pico is soild stainless steel, with a stainless steel chassis, and a modular design where you can work on many parts yourself, and change grips. It gets dirty and dusty just from carrying it. So I went on an ammo quest with all 3 of my 380 firearms to find the best Self defense round watched every video on youtube from Paul Harrell, Shooting The Bull (who did ammo quest and voted Precision One the BEST 380 SD round) , TN Outdoors, Hickock45 and everyone else.you name it.and now hundreds of rounds personally downrange. I'm not sure where you learned to count/measure Josh. The Gen 2 is about 8lbs of pull, Smooth all the way through and deliberate. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. Thanks for getting the Bersa Thunder 380 on the list. It sports a long, heavy trigger pull with double-strike capability. Quite accurate, too. I picked the Bersa Thunder because it's easier for me to hold it out straight longer. Have the Taurus TCP really like it. My favorite carry firearm is my Kahr P380. I agree the Bersa Thunder series is great ! I also disagree with Danny-I think the II looks much better than the original. Page. Keep on keepin on with it! They gave me an Smith and Wesson 380 EZ instead, functioned flawlessly and I shot it well. I wouldn't discount the veracity of a small, low-recoiling cartridge for two reasons: One, there are people who are better suited to very low-recoiling firearms, not necessarily children or the elderly, and a .410 is probably the most prolific low-recoil shotshell south of the 20, and Two, they can still kill you or me or many a beast on this earth. Since I only have 3 magazines for it, it really doesn't bother me. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. My groups are much, much smaller now. Its also a sleek, well built little pistol with no rough protrusions that virtually disappears in your pocket. Carry sig in ankle holster . Again, many thanks!!! I'm a 71 year old Marine Corps careerist and Vietnam combat vet whose career mainly relied on the 1911 platform. I'm looking at a Walther CCP M2 380 for my wife, whose hands are smaller and more arthritic than mine, and hope you'll review it someday soon. Still I agree with you! Check out his new firearms site. Have owned (and traded) a Ruger LCP II, not fun to shoot and has tiny, almost useless, sights for my old eyes. No problems with cheap FMJ ammo, Hornady Critical Defense, or Remington Ultimate Defense. I routinely carried my duty weapon (early years .357 S & W mod 19) and back up .38 S & W Chief Special with +p ammo. In an ideal world, youll be right behind the gun. put hyper-velocity rounds through your .22 semi-auto rifle and enjoy 80% .22 mag performance for the first what, 50 yards, mostly in the first 25??? Concealment is key in our world. We saw a glimpse of it last year with the ANTIFA riots.imagine if you deprive 1/2 of society out of their entitlements and freebies? I would like to comment on a takeaway I have. Wouldn't trust a striker gun in my pocket, even with a pocket holster.
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